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	<title>Comments on: Comittment, true devotion</title>
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	<description>I'm Kelly, a 23 year old photography major in art school who's getting married 9-21-08 to my partner Natalie.</description>
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		<title>By: Batya Salzman Levy</title>
		<link>http://twobrides.wordpress.com/2007/12/11/comittment-true-devotion/#comment-81</link>
		<dc:creator>Batya Salzman Levy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 20:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Twobrides - I don&#039;t know if you have a ketubah yet at least a month after you posted, but do check out shop-ketubah.com.  Most of the ketubot designs are priced way under what you were quoted, and the texts can be either what you see as options on the site, or the new lesbian text that&#039;s almost finished as of right now.  Also, the artist Dorit Jordan Dotan, who lives in Haifa, Israel, would be happy to incorporate anything you and your partner would like to add or change.  Please let my know if there&#039;s anything we can do to lessen your panic!!  Many blessings, Batya</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Twobrides &#8211; I don&#8217;t know if you have a ketubah yet at least a month after you posted, but do check out shop-ketubah.com.  Most of the ketubot designs are priced way under what you were quoted, and the texts can be either what you see as options on the site, or the new lesbian text that&#8217;s almost finished as of right now.  Also, the artist Dorit Jordan Dotan, who lives in Haifa, Israel, would be happy to incorporate anything you and your partner would like to add or change.  Please let my know if there&#8217;s anything we can do to lessen your panic!!  Many blessings, Batya</p>
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		<title>By: Liene at Blue Orchid Designs</title>
		<link>http://twobrides.wordpress.com/2007/12/11/comittment-true-devotion/#comment-78</link>
		<dc:creator>Liene at Blue Orchid Designs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 09:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if you haven&#039;t found a DOC yet, let me know.  I have a good friend in the DC area who is awesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if you haven&#8217;t found a DOC yet, let me know.  I have a good friend in the DC area who is awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: Modern Ketubah</title>
		<link>http://twobrides.wordpress.com/2007/12/11/comittment-true-devotion/#comment-71</link>
		<dc:creator>Modern Ketubah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you are still looking for a ketubah, let me suggest my own designs. My ketubah are based on my own fine art photography of flowers and leaves. I offer several texts for same-sex marriages, which are identical to my other text, just avoid the use of gender-specific terms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are still looking for a ketubah, let me suggest my own designs. My ketubah are based on my own fine art photography of flowers and leaves. I offer several texts for same-sex marriages, which are identical to my other text, just avoid the use of gender-specific terms.</p>
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		<title>By: aquaflame16</title>
		<link>http://twobrides.wordpress.com/2007/12/11/comittment-true-devotion/#comment-70</link>
		<dc:creator>aquaflame16</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi!
I just stumbled onto this site from the above trackback, and I don&#039;t even know if you&#039;ll see comments on this month-old post (and it occurs to me you might actually have found something by now), but I wanted to give you a few tips that might help with the ketubah thing.  While my recent wedding happened to be of the hetero variety, we did want some specific things for the wording of our ketubah for other reasons, and so spent a lot of time looking at wording options.  A wonderful, beautiful, perfectly worded (for the couple) ketubah can be such a joy, I&#039;d hate to see you settle for something you don&#039;t actually like.  Hopefully some info that I have can help a bit.  (Please forgive the novel I&#039;m about to write!)

First of all?  unless you are talking about a whole custom design and not just custom text, the $1000 you&#039;re being quoted is ridiculous.  If you can find a design you like, many artists (obviously have to find one who&#039;s not an ideological prick, but I hold out hope . . .) will do custom wording for something like an additional $200-300, and with many ketubot in that same range, I would think you could still get in around $500. 

Here is a page that has a listing of different wordings available from different artists that might be helpful if any of these are new to you:
http://www.kolbo.com/ketubahtext.php

This is from a Jewish bookstore in Massachusetts, and actually, I would think that in general, talking to artists who work in MA might be a good idea (given the whole legal marriage thing) as I&#039;m sure many of them would be happy to ship to you.

For ours, we wound up going with Amy Fagin http://www.20thcenturyilluminations.com/ and I would highly recommend her.  Obviously you would have to like her artistic style, but she does have a &quot;commitment vows&quot; text (which is actually quite similar to her modern hetero wording) and will do custom text for $250 (and with her ketubot themselves around $250, that should work out for the $500).  One thing we loved about her was that she was totally willing to do some small wording changes we wanted (to make it a bit more progressive and egalitarian), based off her standard wording, and just charge us a smallish fee (I think it was in the $50-$100 range) to make those changes, so that should totally be an option if you like her stuff and almost, but not quite, like one of her text options.  

I hope something here might be helpful to you.  I&#039;m sorry for going on and on!!!! (but if you want me to go on and on more, i.e. want more info about anything I mentioned, feel free to email me :)

good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi!<br />
I just stumbled onto this site from the above trackback, and I don&#8217;t even know if you&#8217;ll see comments on this month-old post (and it occurs to me you might actually have found something by now), but I wanted to give you a few tips that might help with the ketubah thing.  While my recent wedding happened to be of the hetero variety, we did want some specific things for the wording of our ketubah for other reasons, and so spent a lot of time looking at wording options.  A wonderful, beautiful, perfectly worded (for the couple) ketubah can be such a joy, I&#8217;d hate to see you settle for something you don&#8217;t actually like.  Hopefully some info that I have can help a bit.  (Please forgive the novel I&#8217;m about to write!)</p>
<p>First of all?  unless you are talking about a whole custom design and not just custom text, the $1000 you&#8217;re being quoted is ridiculous.  If you can find a design you like, many artists (obviously have to find one who&#8217;s not an ideological prick, but I hold out hope . . .) will do custom wording for something like an additional $200-300, and with many ketubot in that same range, I would think you could still get in around $500. </p>
<p>Here is a page that has a listing of different wordings available from different artists that might be helpful if any of these are new to you:<br />
<a href="http://www.kolbo.com/ketubahtext.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.kolbo.com/ketubahtext.php</a></p>
<p>This is from a Jewish bookstore in Massachusetts, and actually, I would think that in general, talking to artists who work in MA might be a good idea (given the whole legal marriage thing) as I&#8217;m sure many of them would be happy to ship to you.</p>
<p>For ours, we wound up going with Amy Fagin <a href="http://www.20thcenturyilluminations.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.20thcenturyilluminations.com/</a> and I would highly recommend her.  Obviously you would have to like her artistic style, but she does have a &#8220;commitment vows&#8221; text (which is actually quite similar to her modern hetero wording) and will do custom text for $250 (and with her ketubot themselves around $250, that should work out for the $500).  One thing we loved about her was that she was totally willing to do some small wording changes we wanted (to make it a bit more progressive and egalitarian), based off her standard wording, and just charge us a smallish fee (I think it was in the $50-$100 range) to make those changes, so that should totally be an option if you like her stuff and almost, but not quite, like one of her text options.  </p>
<p>I hope something here might be helpful to you.  I&#8217;m sorry for going on and on!!!! (but if you want me to go on and on more, i.e. want more info about anything I mentioned, feel free to email me <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Offbeat Bride &#124; Not your bubbie&#8217;s ketubah!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Offbeat Bride &#124; Not your bubbie&#8217;s ketubah!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 13:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I especially appreciate that the artist, Jennifer Kraft, notes that prices are negotiable depending on the couple&#8217;s budget. She also does ketubah designs for same-sex couples, which I only recently realized is sorta rare. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ariel</title>
		<link>http://twobrides.wordpress.com/2007/12/11/comittment-true-devotion/#comment-62</link>
		<dc:creator>Ariel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 01:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just found your blog while researching a post I&#039;m writing  ... anyhoo, I figured I&#039;d let you know that the woman I&#039;m writing about does ketubah designs for same-sex couples: http://www.jkraftart.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just found your blog while researching a post I&#8217;m writing  &#8230; anyhoo, I figured I&#8217;d let you know that the woman I&#8217;m writing about does ketubah designs for same-sex couples: <a href="http://www.jkraftart.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.jkraftart.com</a></p>
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